Case IH 385

[LCconvert]

Hello! I have had a case IH 385 with the 2200 loader for a few years now. It was real beat up when I got it...still is I guess. I am trying to clean it up though. It is a low center of gravity model with the short fat wheels and tires. I would like to buy new wheels and new tires for it. I don't need the low height and would much prefer the tractor to sit higher off the ground like a normal tractor.

thank you!

 

[Alan]

I believe you're going to need standard agricultural rear wheels, which are likely 15" or 16" in rim diameter along with taller R1 ag tires instead of those low-profile industrial tires. Be sure to check the size of your axle shaft and the bolt pattern to ensure they match up. A popular choice is to go with 13.6-28 or 14.9-28 rear tires paired with front tires that match. This upgrade will really raise your ground clearance and improve your traction.

 

[LCconvert]

I believe you're going to need standard agricultural rear wheels, which are likely 15" or 16" in rim diameter along with taller R1 ag tires instead of those low-profile industrial tires. Be sure to check the size of your axle shaft and the bolt pattern to ensure they match up. A popular choice is to go with 13.6-28 or 14.9-28 rear tires paired with front tires that match. This upgrade will really raise your ground clearance and improve your traction.

Thank you! Do most tractor makes share the same hole pattern, offset, etc...(given the same size tractor)? I was just going to order new Case IH front and rear wheels and then order tires from my local tire dealer. What do you think of All States Ag for buying wheels? How do I get front and rear wheels that "match"?

 

[Alan]

I did a bit of digging, and here’s what I found, hope this helps:

Wheel Bolt Pattern Compatibility:

First off, tractor wheel bolt patterns aren’t standardized across different brands, even if the tractors are similar in size. Brands like Case IH, John Deere, Kubota, and New Holland all have their own unique bolt patterns, offsets, and center bore sizes. So, it’s crucial to match the specs to your specific tractor model.

For your Case IH 385:

- Check the bolt pattern (it’s probably either 6-bolt or 8-bolt)
- Look at the wheel offset and the center bore diameter
- Measure the axle shaft diameter

All States Ag Parts:

They’re known for providing reliable aftermarket agricultural wheels at reasonable prices. Just make sure to confirm that the wheels fit your exact model before you place your order.

Matching Front & Rear Wheels:

Keep in mind that front and rear wheels usually come in different sizes and widths, but you can still match the style (like color and spoke design). It’s a good idea to order both from the same supplier and let them know you want a matching finish. Most suppliers can provide coordinated sets.

Best approach:

- Give All States your tractor’s serial number for precise fitment
- Order both front and rear wheels at the same time
- Have your tire dealer handle the mounting and balancing

 

[LCconvert]

Once again, thank you for the information.

Do you know if wheels on a Case 580 will work on my Case IH 385? I found one locally that I can possible get all four rims and the rear ones have tires that might be usable. I measured the bolt patterns and the center bore on the front and rear and they seem to match up with my 385 (see below). The front tires on the 580 are 7.50-16 and the rear tires are 14.9-24. However, I don't know the offset of the wheels. This could potentially save me some money!

FYI, here are some of the current measurements from my 385 tractor:
Front - 6 lug, 4.5" center, 3" lug center to lug center (tire size is 9.00-10NHS)
Rear - 8 lug, 6" center, 3" lug center to lug center (tire size is 18.4-16)

 

[Alan]

Hey no worries, happy to help! Did another explore and here's what I got.

Compatibility Check:

Your measurements suggest that the bolt patterns might line up, but keep in mind that the Case 580 (backhoe) and Case IH 385 (tractor) wheels serve different purposes and have different offsets:

Front wheels (6-lug):

The Case 580 front wheels are narrower and built for steering on a backhoe. They might fit on your tractor, but they could throw off the steering geometry and stability. Also, the 7.50-16 tires are a lot narrower than your 9.00-10s.

Rear wheels (8-lug):

The 14.9-24 tires are taller and narrower than your 18.4-16s, which will raise your tractor and could make it less stable. The offset might push the wheels in or out, affecting the track width.

Concerns:

- Offset differences could lead to rubbing or handling problems.
- Changing tire diameter can mess with gearing and the speedometer.
- Mixing industrial (580) and agricultural (385) wheel designs isn't ideal.

Recommendation:

Make sure to measure the offset on both sets before you buy

 

[LCconvert]

Hey no worries, happy to help! Did another explore and here's what I got.

Compatibility Check:

Your measurements suggest that the bolt patterns might line up, but keep in mind that the Case 580 (backhoe) and Case IH 385 (tractor) wheels serve different purposes and have different offsets:

Front wheels (6-lug):

The Case 580 front wheels are narrower and built for steering on a backhoe. They might fit on your tractor, but they could throw off the steering geometry and stability. Also, the 7.50-16 tires are a lot narrower than your 9.00-10s.

Rear wheels (8-lug):

The 14.9-24 tires are taller and narrower than your 18.4-16s, which will raise your tractor and could make it less stable. The offset might push the wheels in or out, affecting the track width.

Concerns:

- Offset differences could lead to rubbing or handling problems.
- Changing tire diameter can mess with gearing and the speedometer.
- Mixing industrial (580) and agricultural (385) wheel designs isn't ideal.

Recommendation:

Make sure to measure the offset on both sets before you buy

You make an interesting point. I didn't consider the gearing being different in a low center gravity 385 vs a normal 385. I agree, going to taller tires will impact that. I just assumed the gearing was the same and the Low CG model just was slower.

 

[Alan]

Absolutely, that difference can really catch you off guard. I just learned about it myself and it totally makes sense when you think about tire size and how everything fits together. It would be awesome if someone with real experience could jump in and share their thoughts.